Eclipsed from the headlines by the ongoing carnage, there is an active
civil resistance in Iraq that opposes the occupation, the torture regime
it protects, and the jihadi and Ba'athist 'resistance' alike.
Submitted by Gabriel Ash on Wed, 08/03/2005 - 18:51.
First thanks, "thoughtful" is the kind of praise I really enjoy receiving.
I understand the discomfort. I don't expect to persuade everyone but I stand by it. I can defend it by endless quotes from historical Zionist sources, from endless references in current media (David dug up a few above.), and from my own recollections about the attitudes I was brought up with and encountered in Israeli society.
As for not noting "the odious form that struggle has often taken," I indeed will make no public comment on the specific methods chosen by Palestinians to fight Israelis. To comment requires moral standing. I hold that perpetrators have no standing to lecture their victims about the ethics of resistance.
Israelis AND Americans ARE the perpetrators. We are not detached, universal minds, philosophising about right and wrong. WE are the perpetrators. Whatever ethical beliefs we hold, we should get our own societies to respect before we scold others for ignoring them.
I also wish to say that while Nazi imagery and rhetoric has filtered into the Islamic world, mostly as a result of the conflict, there is very little of it in Palestine, so the issue is not very relevant here.
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First thanks, "thoughtful" is the kind of praise I really enjoy receiving.
I understand the discomfort. I don't expect to persuade everyone but I stand by it. I can defend it by endless quotes from historical Zionist sources, from endless references in current media (David dug up a few above.), and from my own recollections about the attitudes I was brought up with and encountered in Israeli society.
As for not noting "the odious form that struggle has often taken," I indeed will make no public comment on the specific methods chosen by Palestinians to fight Israelis. To comment requires moral standing. I hold that perpetrators have no standing to lecture their victims about the ethics of resistance.
Israelis AND Americans ARE the perpetrators. We are not detached, universal minds, philosophising about right and wrong. WE are the perpetrators. Whatever ethical beliefs we hold, we should get our own societies to respect before we scold others for ignoring them.
I also wish to say that while Nazi imagery and rhetoric has filtered into the Islamic world, mostly as a result of the conflict, there is very little of it in Palestine, so the issue is not very relevant here.